Spain invaded by 50,000 of (what looks to be) young men

They came over from Morocco, some apparently swimming. That’s a gender tell right there. The scenes look like something out of a Science Fiction movie. El CID must be rolling in his grave.

The European theory articulated again after this incident is they need immigrants because their historical population is declining. Why one might ask, the Japanese population has declined 5% since 20 years ago. But real GNP per person (adjusted for inflation) has continued to grow at just under 1%.

Europe is captured by destructive forces, a sense of historical guilt and the better life it offers immigrants from poor countries. As a result for most European countries 25% of their populations consist of immigrants since 1990 and their descendants. Some of these people assimilate, some don’t.

European culture has been a major civilizing force in the world, for the sake of the very countries these immigrants come from, it needs to be preserved. But this is no easy task given the trends already in motion.

I love the framing of this, Spain invaded... they came over Morocco apparently swimming.

Firstly what happened occurred in the small Spanish territory of Ceuta which is... drum roll please a piece of land attached to the continent of Africa that shares a land border with Morocco. It's on the opposite side of the Mediterranean to Spain which is around 12 miles away.

Yes they swam. A rather small distance to get around the fencing of the land border. None of the 50,000 people involved who do appear to be mostly young Moroccan men cross over into mainland Spain. Some 57 of the migrants appeared to have killed in the incident. The territory has a population of around 85,000. Needless to say it couldn't cope with what was happening.

What happened is not typical of Spanish immigration system. They total number of Irregular migrants to Spain in the first quarter of this year had dropped in half from last year down to 6,218. The number of people involved in this one day incident larger than the total number of immigrants Spain has taken in from all of Africa last year. Ceuta itself had seen 2,826 people cross over the border up to July 15th. Something triggered this event and it appears to have been smuggling gangs mispresenting a Spanish court ruling which said migrants arriving by sea can not be deported without due process, unlike those who cross via a land border. Apparently at first the migrants were told the border was open... then when it wasn't that the court ruling meant they could simply swim to the Spanish territory and they couldn't be deported

As it stands most of the people involved (48,000) have voluntarily returned to Morocco.

But we have of course the right wing types seizing on this be they in the US, Finland, Denmark Italy, Cezch Rep. Italy calling for the suspension of Spain's Schengen membership, despite the fact that Ceuta isn't apart of the Schengen zone and not a single person involved crossed over into mainland Spain. As the Spanish have pointed out, its a bit rich coming from Italy when Italy has had far more people cross over into it's border this year. Hope they give the Italian ambassador a good chewing out over that one. T

While it's true to say that Spain is one of the most immigration friendly countries in Europe it has focused on taking in immigrants from countries with historical connections and who are Spanish speaking in order to improve integration, so it takes in about 60% of its immigrants from Latin America, only about 20% come from Africa and the Middle East, the rest coming from Eastern Europe and richer countries and economically so far it appears to be working at least for Spain in the short term.

And we get this typical crap from the right wing American like 'Europe is captured by destructive forces' (the irony of it being this occurrence happening in African territory captured by Europeans ). How about the US fix the violence in your own cities, end school shootings, fix your broken political system and stop bombing the shit out of the middle east before trying to lecture anyone else about destructive forces.

Still far too close for comfort. Their plan was clearly to invade Europe.

I've been to Morocco twice, Casablanca and Rabat. It's one of the more stable African countries but it's still developing nation with a lot of challenges. Casablanca was mega crowded with traffic but there was some nice parts to the city. I know people who swear by Agadir as a holiday destination, apparently the sea food is amazing.

Morocco itself has come under pressure from immigration in recent years from neighbouring countries.

Once again Anger bites the hand that feeds him…..bad USA. Totally ignoring he lives in a tax haven that pays the bills

How dependent is the Irish budget on US companies locating valuable intellectual property (and the associated royalty income) in Ireland?
The answer is very dependent. While there is no official estimate attributing a specific percentage of tax revenue to royalty payments alone, the evidence suggests that Ireland's recent fiscal windfall is closely tied to the profits of US tech and pharmaceutical companies, many of which are generated through intellectual-property-intensive business models. The concentration is striking: in 2024, just three US companies (widely identified as Apple, Microsoft, and Eli Lilly) were estimated to account for about 46% of Ireland's corporation tax receipts.

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Ireland with its shameful history is the last country that should be criticizing other Western countries. And the USA is the last country it should be criticizing.

Really Ireland whataboutism again?

At some level Moz you know you the ideology you seem compelled to follow is totally and utterly fraudulent.

But hey in for a penny in for a pound right?

Whatever the reasons, motivations or long term consequences of the "invasion"... it's a huge problem with the potential to become an even greater headache ...this needs to be stopped decisively... there's no sugarcoating it... it's one big mess and unfortunately just another symptom of a larger problem...

What would have happened if the 60,000 people were armed.

What would happen if the 60,000 all showed up on pogo sticks?