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It's accountability time for the Mamparas.

Started by Beeno111 REPLIES69 VIEWS· 13 Sept 2026, 07:44
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Beeno1Captain40,377 posts
13 Sept 2026, 07:44
#1
13 Sept 2026, 07:44#1

The chief mampara who wins this title hands down and has earned over a long period - ever since the time he started slagging off Rassie when Rassie was player coach of the Cheetahs is of course the very DUD Mozzie followed by Mamparas Plonker Pakster and Daft Deus.
I have not yet watched the match but will do so today. I did look at a number of You Tubers including a number of kiwi You Tubers who universally admitted the Boks were the better side.
Boks who got big plaudits were Eben and Hanekom. In the back it was Morne van den Berg, Allende and Arendse.
Of course all the other Books played well.
So now we have a Bok side in probably the most successful period in Bok history. When I say this recall how often Rassie has be smeared and undermined by these three halfwits.
Dear Daft Deus crusade again Allende who he called a physically weak center after our second world cup win. This was of course utter nonsense on a par with all DUD Mozzie's drivel echoed of course by Plonker Pakster.
Sane posters like myself who have fully supported Rassie, Allende and Du Toit have been completely and utterly vindicated. These three rodents have mad their names mud. Bwahahahahaha.
Their wise assessments, all their fault finding, all their we know better drivel stands today in ruins.
It's time for an abject apology Mamparas. No if and buts please. It's long overdue.
Bye the way guess who predicted a 15 point win. Yes yours truly. I think Plumpster went for a 14 point win so well done to him.
It's quite clear that Rassie outsmarted Renee. Congrats to this GREATEST OF ALL BOK Coaches and the best coach in world rugby. The record speaks for itself Mamparas.
I understand tbe Boks played some good running rugby as the have done repeatedly this year. The oaks whining about the Argentina match and who said the Boks couldn't attack via the backs are left red faced by the facts. Hahahahaha.
It's tough being a faux Bok supporter all these years and getting proven wrong again and again. But of course they never learn.
It's hard to admit to such monumental blunders. Embarrassing to be unmasked etc
It would be nice to turn over a new leaf cut out the anti Rassie/Bok BS but how likely is that. DUD Mozxie's take on the matter was better than usual so who knows, it's a remote chance but not impossible.

bobbok
Captain10,606 posts
bobbok13 Sept 2026, 05:54

Getoutofhere ... how.tf. can anyone take you serious when you haven't even watched the game ?

BE
Captain40,377 posts
Beeno113 Sept 2026, 06:04

@bobbok Blobbrain ya half wit my posts explains the long history of bias by the three Mamparas. Their nonsense doesn't start with the 4th test oak.
Sorry if you feel excluded. Be more productive by making more daft posts than you do and I will include you in the elite Mamparas group. Hahahahahaha.

Deus Ex Lemur
Deus Ex LemurPro2,468 posts
13 Sept 2026, 19:14
#2
13 Sept 2026, 19:14#2

@Beeno1 I must confess, this is magnificent even by your standards.

You've established an accountability tribunal, handed down the verdict, demanded abject apologies from the condemned, proclaimed Rassie's tactical masterclass and declared several individual performances vindicated — before actually watching the game.

High Priest Beeno has apparently progressed beyond the requirement for earthly evidence altogether. 😂

The slight difficulty for your prosecution is that I predicted a Bok victory. I said beforehand that if they reproduced the aggression and physical authority of the first half of the opening Test, they could steamroll this All Black side. My reservations concerned the vulnerabilities within the team and whether they could sustain that level without creating problems for themselves.

They won by considerably more than I predicted, and full credit to them for doing so. Where the performance warrants praise, I'll happily give it. But a large winning margin doesn't magically settle every argument concerning individual players, selection or the shortcomings that were evident during the series.

Indeed, I think I'll exercise my right to remain unrepentant until the learned chairman of the Accountability Committee has at least watched the evidence.

Do come back after the match, Father Beeno. We can begin the inquisition properly then.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,377 posts
13 Sept 2026, 21:27
#3
13 Sept 2026, 21:27#3

Deus you are not only the most biased nutjob on the board but also not the sharpest pencil in the box. My case is built upon years of drivel posted by our resident mamparas the worst of whom are the very DUD Mozzie , secondly yourself Daft Deus and thirdly the Plodding Plonker Pakster,
I have watched the match and Rassie was the clear winner, Du Toit had a fine stint and scored a great powerful try and Allende was superb. So zero chages from my side.
Best sit down quietly and consider how you could avoid making a complete mampara of yourself in the future. Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

Deus Ex Lemur
Pro2,468 posts
Deus Ex Lemur13 Sept 2026, 19:49

@Beeno1 Ah, excellent. The High Priest has now watched the match, so the Accountability Tribunal may finally proceed with evidence in the room.

There is, however, a small problem with the prosecution's case.

You appear to believe that a Bok victory retrospectively validates every opinion you have ever held about Rassie, Du Toit and De Allende. Du Toit scored a "powerful" try, therefore every criticism of Du Toit collapses. De Allende had an average game, therefore years of criticism of De Allende are erased. Rassie won the series, therefore every selection, tactical decision and criticism of his coaching over the years has somehow been adjudicated in his favour.

That's not accountability, Beeno. That's starting with a conclusion and then awarding yourself points whenever something happens that can be made to fit it.

I've criticised specific weaknesses, selections and performances. If you want to overturn those arguments, you'll have to address them rather than simply point at the scoreboard and shout “Bwahahaha.”

And here's the really unfortunate part: I predicted the Boks to win. I said that if they reproduced the aggression and physical authority they showed earlier in the series, they could steamroll this All Black side. They exceeded my predicted margin, and they deserve full credit for doing so.

So your grand accountability thread appears to consist of demanding that I apologise because the team I predicted would win... won.

The cream pie appears to have taken an unfortunate turn in flight, Father Beeno. 😂

Mozart
MozartCoach50,509 posts
13 Sept 2026, 23:18
#4
13 Sept 2026, 23:18#4

Try to process this assessment HasBeen. Nobody on this Board expected this NZ team to beat us at home. The fact that it was closer than most thought is a bit sobering.

Mozart
Mozart
COACH
50,508 posts
05 Jul 2026 at 16:31
#1
The substitute French team ran them very close and scored a raft of tries. I think it’s fair to say the AB defense was pretty porous….with Jalibert ripping them apart several times. Jordan looked less dangerous back on the wing and the centers still don’t look like the answer. McKenzie looked like McKenzie.

To be frank they looked worse than the Razor teams with the defensive weaknesses in those teams highlighted by Wellington, still very much in evidence. One commentator said something like that, but was quickly contradicted. It was the rebirth of NZ rugby with myths and fireworks before the game

Where I saw some progress was in the ruck intensity, French fetchers were simply blown off the ball time and again. But this was disappointing overall. No new ideas, and except for young Love who made 2 fine breaks, no new talent of note. Is this Oupa coaching team really going to turn around NZ rugby

Pakie
PakieCaptain18,300 posts
14 Sept 2026, 06:50
#5
14 Sept 2026, 06:50#5

Beensie wants to be surrounded by cheerleaders like himself and yes-men like Keo and Zels.

Just some points of discussion brought up by Mampara Plodding Pakster:

PSDT's defense. I expressed concern after the games against England and Scotland about his defense while Beensie's yes-man Keo propped up some bullshit stat about him missing only one tackle in those two games, to Beensie's glee. PSDT ended up missing just about a third of his tackles against the ABs, one of if not the highest miss ratio in the series for the Boks. So was that "slagging off" or valid observation from the mampara? The cheerleader will say the former, the balanced observer the latter. Just in Saturday's test a wrong read by PSDT in the red zone has him shooting out of line and creating the gap for Taylor's try.

After the first test I harshly criticized the Boks employing the dumb scrumming for penalty tactic that destroyed Ireland and got the suits at World Rugby's panties in a knot. It literally lost us the game as it created what was acknowledged universally by pundits as the turning point moment that let the ABs back into a game we should have had buried by then. Second test, Boks started using our dominant set piece to actually launch plays from, wa-la, victory. Valid criticism? I believe so.

We have frequently bemoaned our brilliant wings being used as kick chasers and feeding off scraps. We want a more complete game that involves these game breakers. On Saturday Arendse got a ton of ball and ripped the ABs apart. Mampara point vindicated - why do we regularly starve these weapons of destruction of attacking ball when it's clear we are more than capable of getting the ball to them.

But Beensie will be happy to note we were all swinging our pom-poms and having a blast between 11pm and 1am Saturday night despite being such rabid anti-Boks. It was the strangest thing.

Plum
PlumCaptain22,034 posts
14 Sept 2026, 08:02
#6
14 Sept 2026, 08:02#6

"McKenzie looked like McKenzie."

I actually can't with this guy. I mean, what is DMac actually?

Are you really telling me that the ABs don't have a 15 that is capable of more than just a hand in the odd try? Perhaps I'm biased because I've never like him, but what does he actually do? He has zero highball game, is tiny, thinks territory is for "other people" and feels that running from everywhere always is his only duty.

Jordan is pretty much the same but at least he has a high strike rate to lean on.

Can you imagine a universe where Dmac gets into the Boks? I'm sure Cheslin and Arendse weigh less than he does but they are warriors. You actually see Arendse contesting rucks for goodness sake. Both of them are above average threats under Hugh balls and it's very rare you see them missing tackles. See Cheslin's broken jaw for evidence of what he'll do for his team.

Dmac might be the nicest chap on earth but his style of play is a bad apple. You look back at Ben Smith and you have to wonder how they have settled for this poser and how on earth he has this many caps.

I'm not even gonna ask for a comparison between Dmac and Willemse because that's laughable.

Plum
PlumCaptain22,034 posts
14 Sept 2026, 08:18
#7
14 Sept 2026, 08:18#7

Indeed, Beensie has to accept that this is a rugby board and people want to do more than come here to kneel at the altar or Rassie.

Beeno, I would actually dare you to find posts or opinions that are overboard or criticising of the Boks without being rooted in some logic.

The very things we often complain about are later identified as problems and when remedied the difference is noticeable. See Pakster mentioning how Arendse got more ball on Saturday and caused the ABs all sorts of problems. Explain to me how that does not vindicate what we have been saying for ages now about needing to set our backs loose more often?

You might not agree, Beeno, and you might simply be looking at results, but that doesn't mean that our protestations are wrong or rooted in dislike for the Boks.

I've lately been saying that PSDT looks done. Are you really gonna tell me that he can still run somebody over? The guy's body is destroyed. Those hundred tests have come at a price and he's not the same guy he was three years ago. You can clearly see how he's struggling to bring his share of dominance to the pack. Again, as Paks says, look at his tackle stats. You can also look at his carries and see how he very rarely makes ground.

If anything, you should thank us for bribing some balance to the Baird because if all we did was kneel and light incense, how boring would this place be?

bobbok
bobbokCaptain10,606 posts
14 Sept 2026, 09:08
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14 Sept 2026, 09:08#8
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