As I expected, Bongi Mbonambi has forced his way into the starting XV at the expense of an under-performing Malcolm Marx.
The other changes are Lood de Jager in for Franco Mostert (Dave and ou Maaik will be happy!) and Tendai Mtawarira in for Steven Kitshoff.
Go Bokke!
Good team.
Like the sacking of Elton Jantjies.
This might be a Rassie experiment with Frans Steyn at 10.
Is Nkosi dropped or injured?
We really only picking Steyn on the bench?
That's a bit strange, no?
How badly has Kriel fallen out of favor. Yikes.
There is one group of site members who -
* never realized that due to deficient physicality Mostert weakens the Tight 5 and that he is kind of a loosie extra in this case; and
* who blames Erasmus for Marx being out of form because he was disappointed about the firing of Coetzee as coach.
Weird - but true. If Kriel was fit to play Mostert will not have been in the team at all.
I think that Italy will lose by circa 25 points. Mind you I am not far off - I predicted the Springboks will beat Namibia by 55 points and they beat them by 54.
Who is the "group of site members" that blames Erasmus for Marx being out of form?
Mighty Mostert's having a deserved break isall.
Strzok and Co
Strzok and Co
Who is "and Co"?
There are two comments on the issue on this board. One is Blikkies saying this:
Drop in Marx's performance. Are we seeing the impact of Swys de Bruyn's departure now?
The other is Mozart saying this:
In looking back at articles on Marx, I noticed he said he felt sorry for
Coetzee. Maybe he is less comfortable in the new set up, his peak year
was probably 2017.....you may be on to something Blikkies.
So where in all that do you get Erasmus being blamed for Marx's performance by "a group of site members" or even "Strzok and co", Propaganda Mike?
Read what Strzok says about the issue of the departure of Coetzee dimness. It obviously is all BS again and again and normally you support the BS every time,. Happy Idiot Day to you.
Caught in a lie yet again, Propaganda Mike. No one blamed Rassie for anything, and "Strzok" at best said that Marx may be uncomfortable in the new setup. Even so, it is him alone, not a "group of site members" or "Strzok and co".
Ra ssie is saving the best 2 in the world for the knockout stages.
I think that the Kriel situation has now been clarified - be is still injured and returning home.
Rassie is obligated to get the color number correct for all games.
That can be the only reason Mark's is not starting.
Bongo-Bongo is not in the same class as Mark's.
Sorry.
Italy played well last agem given the ireland and fiji upsets u wouldnt want to not roll out your A side...
MArx clearly being rested or AJ correct with yuor messed up quota stuff..? You would think will have big impact off the bench at scrum and general play if used in last 20-30mins.
Whatever form slupm you think he's in... from outside perspective imo still best hooker in world rugby...
"At least we wont see useless Mostert...."
And we won't see your "class act" Elton Useless Jantjies either.
Pakie....bunker down.
From memory, didn't Mostert start both games in NZ where we were successful against the ABs? The draw and the win?
If only they'd allow him start in a real test match. Just so we can prove for once and for all that he's not actually test material.
The idiocy of Strzok and Comey continue unabated. Their banner boy Mostert is well on the way of dropping out of WC matches and so is their hero Fatso Steyn. LMAO
Yes Plum, with a largely ignored best defensive contribution in the win in Wellington at 24 tackles missing 2 , while PSDT got most of the spotlight for making the same amount of tackles, missing 5.
Pakie, there are only a handful of posters that'll change their mind in the face of evidence.
Sad, but true.
People will be hush on Faf when he wins games for us but jump on him when he puts in an average performance. And then do the opposite when their favorites have similar fortunes.
Pointless arguing.
True Plum, but I guess having a bit of back and forth putting things to ponder on the table is what it's about, otherwise it will be pretty quiet here apart from the trolls and the multiple aliases slinging shit at everyone.
I wish Lood all the best despite not rating him that highly Dave, whatever is best for the Boks. We'll see how he goes, those burly Italians aren't the same kettle of fish as the Namibians.
I suppose Lood does have decent hands. Can I see him putting him 15 tackles on his best day? I can't.
My problem is...I support both Mostert and PSDT.
Comey
But his open field tackling was hopeless in Wellington and then there the series of missed tackles in the WC match against New Zealand was an example of his real value in defense - just run through him reflects his real contribution.
In the flawed performances two tries were scored as result of Mostert missed routine tackles - you blamed Du Toit directly for the first one and by implication also for the second one.
Happy Idiot and Distortion Day to you, LMAO
My problem is...I support both Mostert and PSDT.
I don't see that as a problem, Plum. I support them both as well. Both have weaknesses, but you can't fault their commitment. What irks me is the clearly lopsided favoritism where Mostert can be criticized freely, but the moment you point out PSDT making an error people are on your back going "boohoo, stop being mean to Steph".
Lood has made, I think, 22 tackles in a test before. When there's a lot of traffic in the middle during phase play tight forwards can quickly rack up their tackle count. See 34 year old Wyn Jones making 25 tackles against Australia the other day.
and by implication also for the second one
I see you're still struggling to distinguish between the two NZ tries ou Mike. Keep at it, I know it's terribly complicated but I'm rooting for you all the way.
Comey
Keep it up I like entertainment and you and Strzok supplies plenty of it, LMAO
Jantjies is also on holiday seeing the sights.
Another spot wasted on a useless quota.
Wow!! How many is that?
Pakie
I think Lood would do well in Europe. SH conditions are too hard for flatfooted players of his size.
In slower conditions, his bit of skill and bulk would be handier.
In contrast, PSDT needs to slow down a bit. He's smart enough to make good contributions but his haste puts him off balance too often. He's at his best when he's only thinking one step ahead, not two.
On Eben, I've been happy that he's been improving for too long now. By that I mean, when is the fished, clear "best in the world" product going to arrive? Marx is still that now, and he's only entering his prime. Sure, he's out of form atm, but you get the picture.
RG's my guy but probably on the lighter side as compared to the above.
Liar Sipreme as per always. Lood was critical to the 2015 WC Tight 5 since the miserable Matfield flop totally. In any event we are used to usage of selected stats leaving out critical info - so lets look at the issue objectively and cut out the prejudiced BS.
