I have been hoping somebody would check what the ref was doing as I had spotted some bad decisions and felt there would be more once a proper analysis was done.
Please note Pakster this is what a decent analysis would unearth. To all those moaning about the Boks how about an abject apology as on this evidence one can see why we lost the test. Lets hope for a much better ref on Saturday.
Bye the way has anybody EVER seen a wee ab scrum so completely dominated. They were crunched! I also hope Ox can manage 65 minutes and that Thomas du Toit is fit and raring to go. Great pity about Kolbe.
One thing I agree about with the very Dud Mozzie is that Faf should come back. I am also a fan of Embrose Papier. Reinach needs to produce. His is service is often too slow. We need to see a lot more energy from him. This is a huge test for him.
Springboks vs All Blacks: A Refereeing DISASTER | The Calls That Changed the Test
I see Mallet and Matfiled are also calling out ref decisions. It was pretty bad oaks. Terrible forward passes!
Same old Hasbeeno. Leopards don’t change their spots! You win the “blame the ref” post numbers hands down Hasbeeno…..
Are you sure Bryce Lawrence didn’t ref the first test??
The ref was pretty piss poor but not the reason the Boks lost
How the fuck that high hit on Wiese was not even a penalty sums the ref up
Adequately explained by Carley. Savea hit Wiese high up on his arm but it never got any higher and that’s a legal tackle. With the force of the hit Wiese’s head then snaps forward and hits Savea’s arm. If Savea’s arm had ridden up and made direct contact with Wiese’s head then the head would have gone backwards and not snapped forwards.
A perfect explanation and a “rugby incident” as Carley rightly called it!
No penalty!!
@moolaa yeah that was shoulder on shoulder as first point of contact with the whiplash as Carley explained it. I'm fine with those tackles being let go. Shoulder to head as first point of contact is something else.
The ref is something you can't control. How you play is. Get the ball out of your dominant scrum and score some points instead of turning it into a 50/50 thing that can go either way with a ref, we know how inconsistently they blow scrums. That's never going to change, ever, so you can bitch about it 24/7/365, it will remain frequently contentious, often wrong.
The biggest problem I see in that video is the forward pass from Grant to Wilco - it's a bad angle and mostly obscured but I struggle to see how that pass could have gone forward. Again, we can barely see, but a try there would have been huge in the context of the game as it was right before the turning point scrum penalty.
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Blaming the ref is such a cop-out.
It's also such a weak little crybaby thing to do . . . which explains why Baboon-ou does it all the time.
I was at the game and there's no question in my mind that the All Blacks won because they played a lot better than us, not because of the ref.
As I expected these mamparas are immune to evidence. Our lover of video analysis 0akster suddenly finds this video evidence irrelevant
Then there is drat old Rooitwitterbug. In his case there never has been a bent ref blowing against a South African side he has t loved.
As for moooo LA LA LA land weirdo doesn't adequately describe him
Bwahahahahahaha.
The ref was either incompetent or a crook and we wuz robbed.Period.
The Kiwi pack was made to look like girls at scrum time. Hahahahahaha.
To a our closet wee ab ballarinas Mamparas go and watch the video again if you ever watched it at all given your daft comments.
Beeno schooling the anti Bok Mamparas and a badly erring kiwi bird brain! It's what I do.
Here’s AI’s confirmation of the protocol:
Yes, official World Rugby guidance historically includes this specific visual indicator: head contact is identified when the head visibly snaps or moves backwards upon impact, whereas initial contact to the chest or body causes the head/neck to jerk forwards first due to momentum transfer.
@Mozart Open and shut case Moz.
Take note Hasbeeno and Saffolk. No apology necessary………
The only ones being schooled here Hasbeeno are your embarrassing self and last week’s Bok team.
Hasbeeno; ref whining since 2011 and probably a lot earlier…….
Moo la la lalaland how did you enjoy your wee abs been pushed around like school girls in the scrum. Or how did you enjoy the Lions front row getting that push over try against the ab ballarinas? That video showed very clearly the incompetence of the ref. End of story. Enough bad decisions to effect the outcome of the test.
I note DUD Mozzie is once again firmly in the wee ab camp. No surprises there.
Well this week we have heard all these anti Bok voices in full cry. The funny thing is that if we win on Saturday they will be just about as bad. Heck recall the meltdowns of DUD Mozzie and Deus after our last RWC win. Look how the mamparas union are forever moaning and complaining about the Boks during a time of what is arguably the most successful period in Bok history.
Away with the anti Bok mamparas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn’t enjoy watching the scrums Hasbeeno but I lapped up the scoring of 5 tries to 1!
You know what a try is don’t you? It’s where you attempt to put the ball down over your opponent’s white line at the end of the field.
Moolaa schooling Hasbeeno once again and reminding him it’s not compulsory to only improve your score by 3 points at a time…..
I’m waiting for Rassie to come up with an all forwards starting 15 as he sure as hell doesn’t allow his backline to function. Out of ideas perhaps???
Note this HasBeen….here’s an independent ref review:
The decision hinged on the fact that the force from Savea's lawful tackle induced a 'whiplash' motion in Wiese, propelling his head forward. This incidental contact mitigated what could otherwise have been construed as direct and punishable. Owens concurred with the on-field decision, emphasizing the legality of an upright tackle unless it directly impacts the head or neck.
Despite the outcome, Owens remarked on the narrow margin by which Savea avoided a more severe punishment. Standing upright, with no sudden movements from Wiese to mitigate the impact, the incident was borderline. “He’s very lucky because if he had been an inch higher and it’s direct contact to the head, you’re probably looking at a 20-minute red card but, to be fair, a strong on-field decision by the referee,” Owens added.
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Exactly what I said above. Stick with Moz so you don’t look like a fool.
This is in light of such incidents as Retallick throat slamming Janjtes and then immediately after spear tackling Smit to end his season. NZ came away with the penalty. There is a history to this that spans decades. No doubt there is a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours in world rugby, I've that has benefited the Boks in me recent seasons, but I reject it regardless of who the beneficiary is.
Well said Card.
There have been 9 head incidents and the wee abs have got away with them all.
This video and the one I posted today shows how terrible the reffing has been. Taken together they are Damning.
Nothing could be more foolish than sticking with DUD Mozzie and his faulty mozztroscope!


